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Hey folks, my guest today is Gerbert von Dunbedehehejah. After finishing his master, he started

his career as a business analyst and project manager working on IT projects. When Ethereum

launched, he was convinced about the possibilities of the technology to disrupt old models and

create new businesses. So he started his own business with some colleagues around this new

technology. He's now building Venli.io to help make the blockchain more user-friendly. Gerber,

you ready to take us to the top? Yeah, sure. All right, tell me who you're selling this to

and how you guys make money. What's the revenue model?

I'm sorry, basically a SaaS company. So building applications on top of blockchain is pretty difficult.

It's a very difficult technology and making user-friendly applications on top of blockchain is even more difficult.

So we actually make it more easy for development studios, games, for example, to build user-friendly games on top of blockchain without any knowledge of blockchain. Interesting. And what are companies paying on average per month to use your technology?

It depends. We have multiple products live. So we have web wallots. We have an NFT API to mint

NFTs. We have an NFTs and a Shopify plan to create NFTs. And they all follow a different

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