Hi and welcome to the Automotive News Shift podcast, where we bring you the latest on automotive technology, trends, and transformation.

I'm executive producer Jake Neer, in for Hannah Lutz and Molly Boygan this week, although later in the show, you'll hear my conversation with Molly

as part of our series of episodes breaking down automotive technology and complex issues.

We'll talk about how on earth do vehicles actually connect to the internet.

We'll talk about over-the-air updates and streaming and how the technology that enables these things actually works.

And we'll do it with help from Mike Quinn, a managing director and partner at Boston Consulting

Group, who's one of our go-to sources on vehicle connectivity.

But first, let's talk about one of the big stories this week from our tech and innovation

team here at

Automotive News. For that, I'm joined by my colleague Lawrence Iliff. Lani, welcome back to Shift.

It's great to be here.

Really, really fascinating piece on otonnews.com and soon in the pages of automotive news, how China

made LIDAR a mass market sensor and why some

U.S. automakers are embracing it. Lonnie, Lidar used to be this really exotic $50,000 technology

spinning on top of Waymo Robotaxies. Now you're reporting that it's a $200 sensor showing up on mass market cars in China.

What happened?

It's a really fascinating story because, you know, we see these Waymos or on TV or whatever,

and then also the Zooks and they have these spinning things and kind of these big LIDARs

because obviously they're you know level four

vehicles and everything but quietly the technology has been getting better the manufacturing

has been getting better these Chinese companies have taken something that's kind of a US invention

right and iterated on it mass manufactured it there are there are Western players too, but the Chinese have

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