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Today I'm here with Dr. Sarah, Valentine, excuse me, and we're going to be talking about the foundational things you can do to help keep your gut healthy.

Lifestyle practices, sun exposure, exercise,

sleep, which I think sometimes get glossed over for the new and novel,

XYZ fancy supplement, but these things are definitely the foundation. And Sarah and I have

been kind of crossing paths at various conferences for a few years now,

and I have to credit her with kind of doing a good job of making sure that this podcast actually

happened. But Sarah, I just want to share kind of an embarrassing story. When we were at PaleoFX,

I was walking around the floor, and I came across your lecture, and I kind of stepped in for a few minutes to watch.

And you're going over causation versus association. And I thought, oh, by Cupid's Arrow, I think I'm in love.

Sometimes I feel like, you know, people are just so quick to jump to whatever data point they can find to support, whatever they're trying to huck.

But in your case, you were really trying to help educate the audience here, you know, lay audience on, hey guys, you know, it's important that you understand causation versus association.

And, you know, I know that we're going to have a great conversation today because I think we have a very similar way in which we analyze data and make our recommendations.

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