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EU Confidential

VDL 2.0 — How Europe and Ukraine have changed, two years into Russia's all-out war

EU Confidential

POLITICO

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4.4175 Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

As we mark two years of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, we take stock of how the war has changed Europe's political landscape and identity — as well as life for Ukrainians under siege. Also, we look at Ursula von der Leyen's campaign to remain European Commission chief. Von der Leyen finally announced her intention this week to officially seek another term at the helm following the European Parliament election in June. Host Sarah Wheaton is joined by POLITICO's Hans von der Burchard about the not-so-surprising announcement and what we can expect from von der Leyen's campaign over the coming months. And as mentioned, Hans is part of POLITICO's new Berlin Playbook team — you can subscribe here. Then we turn our focus to Ukraine. Executive Producer Cristina Gonzalez sits down with renowned Bulgarian political scientist Ivan Krastev at the recent Munich Security Conference to unpack how the war in Ukraine has fundamentally changed Europe. And finally, Sarah is joined by our reporter in Kyiv, Veronika Melkozerova, for a poignant personal account of how the war has impacted her and her fellow Ukrainian citizens. You can read Veronika's full story here: "Being Ukrainian in 2024: 'People look at me as if I'm terminally ill'". Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The year of 2024 demands your response from everyone in the world.

0:08.6

If we do not act now, Putin will manage to make the next year's catastrophic, catastrophic

0:17.2

for other nations as well. Nearly two years after Russia launched its full-scale war in Ukraine,

0:24.7

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy sounded more dire than ever

0:27.9

as he implored leaders at the recent Munich Security Conference to support his country.

0:34.8

The fighting drags on, but Europe is changing.

0:38.3

The Great Peace Project is confronting, once again, the realities of war.

0:44.3

Zelensky urged allies not to give up on his country,

0:49.3

and to resist an idea that's getting harder to ignore, even for some of Ukraine's most ardent supporters,

0:56.1

that maybe Ukraine can't win.

0:58.7

Please, do not ask Ukraine when the war will end.

1:07.2

Ask yourself, why is Putin still able to continue it?

1:13.6

Slava Ukraine.

1:15.6

I'm Sarah Wheaton, host of EU Confidential.

1:20.6

In recent episodes, we've been talking a lot about defense.

1:23.6

Europe's ability and willingness to defend not only itself, but also Ukraine, even if the U.S.

1:29.4

turns its back on NATO.

1:31.5

Today, we're still going to talk about the war, but we're going to be a bit more introspective

1:35.7

about it.

1:37.1

How is it changing Ukrainians?

1:39.2

And how is it changing us here in the EU?

1:42.6

To help us do that, we're speaking to Bulgarian political scientist Ivan Krastov

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