The Bird Show.

Today is Veterans Day.

And, you know, we were saying before that, you know, like back in the day,

Veterans Day just felt like a day to honor old people.

Well, because the major conflicts, you know, some weren't even called wars, you know,

kind of ended in the early 70s up until the Gulf War, you know.

So for a long time there was no wars and no true, you know, battle veterans except your parents or your grandparents. And so it did seem like an old person's war. But now that we are in wartime, then, I mean, it's from 18 years old all the way up is a veteran. And this is anybody that fights in a war. I mean, it is considered a veteran. If you're in

the military, you are a veteran, you know? I mean, Joanna's boyfriend, Jason. Has he seen action

and come back? I don't want to answer that because he's like special forces. So the definition

is that you have to have served overseas or in combat?

Been in combat, yes.

It's my assumption.

It's always been my assumption.

I think mine too.

So yesterday I'm watching ESPN and I'm not exactly sure that this is going to print but I think maybe it will.

You guys know the story of Pat Tillman, right?

Pat Tillman was a football player that played for the Arizona Cardinals.

And after 9-11, at least the legend was that he was so upset on what happened at 9-11,

that he decided to give up this sort of cush life that he had in the NFL and go and fight for the military.

Go to Iraq, where he lost his life.

I was watching ESPN yesterday, and they had a new piece on sort of this old story.

It's the first time that his wife has come out and talked about Pat Tillman and talked about all the details that led him up to going to war.

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