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So we do this weekly email thing where usually right at the beginning of the week, we exchange emails of like the things that are going on in our lives or whatever. And that seems to work for us to stay in touch. And she's pretty computer savvy or whatever. Well, I got one this morning that has me really freaked out from her. I'm just going to read it to you guys. And by the way, she types in all caps. Oh, she screams at you every time. Have you told her? You can't do that, Grant. She says that she's too lazy to do anything else. She doesn't want to do the caps at the beginning of the sentences. Well, she should type in all lowercase and be a little more emo. That's true. I could tell her that. She should do all lowercase. But yeah, she hits caps lock and starts typing away. So it says, hi, Jen, how are things with you going great, I hope? I have two major things on my mind. One is about her furniture. She recovers furniture. And so one story is about that. And then the other thing is that next January, I'm in a bind about getting my driver's license renewed. They have changed the laws and you have to have proof of U.S. citizenship. I do not have a thing to prove mine. My grandmother's from Britain. She was she was, she was, she was, yeah, my grandmother's British. She's born in England and was shipped over here when she was very young because her mother died when she was 10. And back in those days, men didn't raise kids. So her father sent her here to the United States to be raised at a plantation in North Carolina with her great aunts. Oh, what an interesting story. Yeah. So she actually was shipped over like on the Queen Mary. Like she came on a boat. That's cool. Yeah. So she says, uh, I do not have a thing to prove mine. I got a passport in 1973 to go to England to visit, but I didn't keep it current. She said, I went through the tortures of the damned to get that one. They do not accept an outdated one anyway. I'm going to the courthouse next week to see what I can do about all this. What a mess. I'm sure I gave you some papers from my dad, which she did, because I'm really interested in the genealogy of my family and keeping those momentos and that kind of thing. So she's given me

some of the genealogy books that she's worked on and some of the mementos from her past and from her dad or whatever. So she said, when you have the time, please check and send me a list of what you have. If you have any, so sorry to be such a pain, but I have no idea what they're going to ask me to supply.

This may mean that I can't drive next year, which would be a real bummer.

And then she puts if I'm still alive, which she always jokes around about not being here, which is. Yeah, that's not funny. It's not funny to me, but she's just, that's just the way she is. She just, like, laughs about it, you know?

She doesn't... It's not a serious thing, but she just jokes around about that all the time.

How old is she now?

She will be 82 this. like laughs about it, you know, she doesn't, it's not a serious thing, but she just jokes around

about that all the time. How old is she now? She will be 82 this month, actually. Okay. Oh boy. I've got conflicted feelings about this. Well, the drive. I know she's, I know she's your grandma everything, but one less 82 year old on the roads, I got to say. Yeah, I'm worried about the citizenship. I'm not worried about the driving. What if they kick her out of the country?

Exactly. My concern., if she stops driving, that would be a bummer. Because I think that my grandmother is where I get most of my independence from. Like, she doesn't need anybody to do anything for her. She is very, very independent. I mean, she's still recovering furniture and she's 82 years old.

That's awesome. She plays poker with her friends, like twice a week. She goes swimming.

She goes, you know, rides her bike around her like senior citizen park. Like, she's got tons of friends.

She hasn't needed a man since she dated Charlie Chaplin.

Oh, she does not want a man. No, new, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, that would be a pain in her butt. So she's just fiercely independent. And having her car allows her to go to her Bible study, her poker groups, you know, going to church and that kind of thing. And the grocery store and whatever else. Like take her car away and you take away her independence. So that is a concern. How did you get your driver's license, Joanna? Well, actually, I was about to say, I do know that there's a new law with the whole, because my parents are not citizens, so they have to get their driver's license renewed every year now, which is why my mom is going through the process of becoming a citizen. Really? So what is her? I thought, so is she a resident? I have no idea. I never knew that she didn't have any sort of proof of U.S. citizenship or maybe she's just been here long enough. She's just fallen through the system. I have no idea, but that's my biggest concern.

Like what if they say you're not, like, had she been paying taxes for 50 years? Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. Are you automatically considered a citizen if you've been here for

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