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My guest tonight is an amazing writer at the Atlantic

who helped produce a special commemorative issue of the magazine called King,

a look at the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr.

Please welcome Van Ukerk.

Welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

I've been a fan of your writing for so long.

You touch on so many different topics, you know, from Black Panther through to racism in America,

the Second Amendment.

One of the more interesting conversations that I got started because of your writing

was specifically about teachers being armed.

And you argued that in its very essence, it goes against the Second Amendment.

Why would you make that argument?

Yeah, so the Second Amendment is supposed to be this thing that protects people from the government.

The whole entire ethos of it is you get people, you give them guns,

and you give them guns so they can build a militia, but to protect themselves against tyranny.

Right.

And you have teachers who are state agents, right, paid by the state, who are taking care of our kids,

who have sometimes done bad things to those kids, and you're giving them guns.

So, especially in Florida, you have a guy who was known to use the inward with his students

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