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Using AI to Transform Long-Term Care with Lily Vittayarukskul

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Lily Vittayarukskul shares her remarkable journey from working at NASA in her teens to founding a company that innovates with AI to transform long-term care planning. We explore why long-term care remains one of the most misunderstood and underserved areas in wealth management, despite being one of the biggest retirement risks. We break down how long-term care works, who needs it most, the pros and cons of self-funding versus insurance products, and why many families fail to plan until it's too late.

We discuss...

  • Lily Vittayarukskul shared her early fascination with aerospace engineering, including work recognized at age 12 and a role at NASA's JPL by 16.
  • A personal long-term care event in her family at age 16 prompted her pivot from aerospace to healthcare.
  • She built technical expertise in genetics and AI at Berkeley before founding a company focused on long-term care solutions.
  • The ideal candidates for long-term care planning are typically 40–60 years old, upper-middle-class individuals with $2–5 million in assets.
  • Many financial professionals avoid long-term care due to its complexity, morbid nature, and time-consuming conversations.
  • Traditional long-term care policies and hybrid/lump-sum products each have advantages depending on individual circumstances and predicted care needs.
  • Self-funding long-term care is an option, but many clients are risk-averse and ultimately prefer a structured insurance plan.
  • Lily's company uses decades of data to predict long-term care events and costs, helping advisors map policies to individual client needs.
  • Long-term care planning is as much about protecting family members and legacy as it is about financial strategy.
  • Conversations about long-term care should start with a professional, involve spouses, and eventually include children or trusted family members.
  • Many clients struggle with the emotional and logistical burdens of caregiving, which can impact their own health and quality of life.
  • The topic is often avoided culturally because it forces acknowledgment of aging, mortality, and potential loss of autonomy.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast. Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life. Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners. Welcome to this week's show. My name's Kirk Chishol, and I'll be your host. So today, I'm joined with Lily Vitae O'Ruskal. How you doing today, Lily? I'm doing really great. It's good to be here.

0:22.3

For the listeners who aren't familiar with you, tell us a bit about your background.

0:25.1

So I was really fascinating with aerospace engineering. Some of my work I actually got recognized when I was 12

0:29.9

and then took some baby steps to ultimately work at NASA on the robotic side at JPL when I was 16,

0:36.4

went to college early for it. But I know with this

0:39.1

particular topic, we navigated a personal long-term care event when I was 16. And my family,

0:44.3

happy to dive in there. And that's what caused me to pivot my career into healthcare. I developed

0:49.9

my technical background in genetics and AI from Berkeley before running several early stage

0:56.5

product and engineering companies before founding the business on the top. You have a very well-rounded

1:02.6

background sounds like, and you've come down a long way from NASA to genetics to insurance.

1:09.8

You know, we are in a very unsexy space, but what I love to tell my

1:14.8

kind of future employees is that it's really sexy if you're just interested in like nuanced things.

1:21.4

So there's a lot of nuances insurance. I find it particularly fascinating. And hopefully I could

1:25.8

share a little bit of that today. Well, definitely dive in the weeds. Long-term care is this really fascinating space. I've been

1:31.4

an advisor for 26 years, and I can tell you, there are almost nobody in the advisor world who

1:37.7

understands or is good at long-term care. The more I hear about it, the less I want to get

1:43.2

involved with it. And at the same time,

1:45.2

the greater need there is for people to have it and to understand it. It's just weird dynamic in the

1:52.2

wealth management space. Maybe you could tell listeners a little bit about this, about what is

1:56.8

long-term care, how does it work, give us kind of a primer here. I know that the audience here

2:01.7

is more like consumers, not necessarily financial professionals and are not exactly

2:06.6

researchers as well. And so there's a technical definition that you're going to see if you go

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