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Us vs. Them Told in Two Parts

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2018

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to Slate's Mark Joseph Stern about the opening arguments at the Supreme Court today surrounding Trump's travel ban and then is joined by Ian Bremmer to chat through his new book Us vs. Them: The Failure of Globalism. Do you have tickets to our live show yet? We'll be live at the Brooklyn Bell House on May 30th with a special guest! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

He called me up, he said, put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.

0:06.2

Don't forget, we're like the piggyback to being rough.

0:09.2

And if there are folks that shouldn't be in this country, they're going to be detained.

0:13.2

And so, I apologize for nothing here.

0:15.6

You know who's getting the oil? China!

0:17.6

China! I love them! China!

0:24.8

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan.

0:27.6

So President Emmanuel Macron just said to Congress, personally, if you ask me,

0:34.0

I do not share the fascination for new strong powers, the abandonment of freedom,

0:39.6

and the illusion of nationalism. That's nationalism.

0:44.0

Okay, I'm giving up the accent.

0:46.0

In any case, if he doesn't like strong powers, abandoning freedom and the illusion of nationalism,

0:51.6

David from just said on Twitter, David from who's been on the show,

0:55.2

you picked a hell of a time to visit the US then.

0:58.8

Is so sad, we suck as a country.

1:01.6

I hate having to have these European leaders come over and tell us that,

1:06.0

and make it clear in their sophisticated way that we have such a loser president, so embarrassing.

1:11.6

We're ever going to get our pride back.

1:14.4

Today, we're going to be kind of talking about that.

1:16.6

My guest is Ian Bremer. He's going to be talking about his book Us versus Them,

1:22.0

and the failure of globalism in Bremer. Of course, it's the founder and president of the Eurasia group.

1:28.3

But first, we have our jurisprudence correspondent. That's Mark Joseph Stern.

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