I think what we're learning is that when you get rid of guardrails on the right, what's left is that people do gravitate in great numbers towards conspiracy theories and anti-Semitism, which is the mother of all conspiracy theories. theories.

It's Unholy. I'm Unholy. I'm Unite Levy in Tel Aviv.

And I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

And this week we will be talking to Coleman Hughes, who is one of the most influential young thinkers in America today. We're looking forward to that conversation later in our show.

Before we get to that, however, Jonathan, can we talk about books? It's been a while since we've done that.

Yes, we... About five minutes, perhaps.

It's about about five minutes.

Yes, it's a regular feature.

I just wanted to tell you about my experience at the National Library in Jerusalem last week, which being a library

of aficionado, it's kind of embarrassing that I haven't been there since it opened the new

building of the library in 2023. I have to say, I mean, it's gorgeous of embarrassing that I haven't been there since it opened the new building

of the library in 2023. I have to say, I mean, it's gorgeous, right? It's designed in a way that looks

like an open book with a lot of respect to, you know, playing with the idea of the Kotel and the

wailing wall and how the sort of wall of this library is made. Inside, it's this beautiful place in which kind of all walks of Israeli life are in there, thousands of students every day, but also you can see in the sort of large reading hall. There's going to be the sort of, you know, the Jews, the Arabs, the religious, the secular, all of them kind of coming together. It's this beautiful, beautiful building. I can tell you I was there because I sort of wanted to adhere to the law. There's a book law in this country

that says that you have to deposit every publication that comes out in Israel. You have to deposit two

copies to the library. You know, a little caveat. My book didn't come out in Hebrew yet. It was just

a trial run with Don't Feed the Line in English, but still it was this moment where I kind of, you know,

use the opportunity to deposit these books and meet very interesting people. And I thought to myself,

your books, at least two of them, were translated into Hebrew. I do hope that you adhered

to the law in this land and did deposit, or your publisher deposited books for you, in the National Library, among four million other books.

I would absolutely comply with that law eagerly and readily.

My understanding, because there's an equivalent law here, every book written has to be deposited with, there's several deposit libraries.

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