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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Gen Z in Iran and violence in the West Bank - with Holly Dagres and Amos Harel

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Jews, Religion & Spirituality, Israel, Jewish, Judaism, Israel Podcast, Middle East, Jonathan Freedland, Documentary

4.7770 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Watch us on Youtube: https://youtu.be/P3ahIBALMZQ Follow us on social media and join Patreon to get more of Unholy: https://linktr.ee/unholypod As Benjamin Netanyahu boards a flight to meet President Trump, his government is attempting to rewrite the memory of October 7, removing the word “massacre” from its proposed memorial day bill. Yonit and Jonathan are joined by military analyst Amos Harel, who examines rising tensions in the West Bank, the growing influence of the far right, and the fragile balance between the IDF and the Palestinian Authority. Plus: a special conversation with Iran analyst Holly Dagres, who lived in Iran as a teenager, on the resilience and defiance of the country’s younger generation — and what change, and the future, might hold.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Iranian Gen Z is part of the globalized Gen Z, and it's because they're connected to the world through Internet, social media, and illegal satellite dishes.

0:11.8

And because Gen Z is a globalized generation, it doesn't matter if you're in Tehran, Tel Aviv, or Washington, D.C.

0:18.1

They dress the same. They listen to the same music, they oftentimes

0:22.0

watch the same things. They want really basic things. They want to be able to find a job.

0:27.4

They want to be able to freely express themselves. They want to be able to go on dates and

0:32.5

kiss their lover in the streets. I would argue that it was Iranian Gen Z that was the first of their generation

0:38.5

to start these anti-regime protests around the globe.

0:57.9

It's Unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland in London. It's unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

0:59.5

And I'm Unhulay in Tel Aviv.

1:03.4

Unholy, two Jews on the news. The voice you heard at the start there,

1:10.7

Holly Dagress, an expert on authority on Iran, for a fascinating conversation about life on the ground there,

1:11.5

beyond the politics and the diplomacy and the summitry, a really fascinating perspective.

1:15.5

We also will be talking to longtime friend of the podcast, Haarets, is Amos Harrell, about the area

1:21.8

in a way that has not got that much attention these last few years, as we've all been looking

1:25.6

at Gaza, Amos, brings us up to date with

1:28.6

what's happening on the ground in the West Bank. That is fascinating too. So we have lots to come

1:34.6

in this episode of Unholy. We really do. But before all that, we should tell our listeners that

1:39.7

Jonathan is going to be a flaneur for the next three weeks. Well, you know, it's a book tour and a speaking tour. But, you know, normal people would just say, have fun, Jonathan. And if any of our listeners, we have a big listenership in Australia and New Zealand, you want to catch Jonathan, look at the show notes. But I, on the other hand, would just sprinkle a little bit of guilt over this whole thing? Just a, just a, just a bit, just a bit,

2:02.7

enough of it. A light dusting of guilt. I mean, don't think of me, you know, look not upon me. I'll be

2:07.7

fine. Iran might attack Israel. Ramadan month is opening. All manner of mayhem can ensue. But I mean,

2:14.8

Jonathan, you know, you do your thing. Just, just, you know, enjoy yourself

2:18.9

down under. Fake smile. You're a Jewish mother three times over. Listeners should be aware. You have

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