This is CBSI and the world. I'm John Batchew with Henry Sikolsky, the executive director of

Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center. We've been discussing nuclear weapons and perhaps the

end of the world. But right now, the end of my world ended at about 3 o'clock on a Thursday afternoon,

along with the global phenomenon of this

Starlink network going down without explanation. Now, Henry will take us to the next level,

which is electricity grid going down without explanation. But as far as I'm concerned,

the electricity into this environment only matters when it maintains the

Internet. If it doesn't, I do something about it, which is a generator. I worry about it. However,

when Starlink comes down, it doesn't matter how much electricity I have. So, Henry,

Elon Musk has a lot of explaining to do. At the same time, the electricity grid, you

evidence with article after article, is not secure.

In fact, it's fragile.

In fact, it's broken.

Do I exaggerate?

A bit.

I mean, after all, we're talking right now because it is working.

So, I mean, I think the problem is it's increasingly going to be and is vulnerable to not only interruption and hacking by, you know, cyber teams and various hostile countries, but also, you know, all of those drone over flights of

nuclear reactors and other utility systems last winter, which both Biden and then President

Trump poo poohed, the northern commander went on 60 minutes and said, no, it's a real problem.

I'm very worried.

Well, I'm pretty sure that there's a connection.

And we know there definitely is a connection to some of these overflights that have been reported for so many years to China.

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