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Moms and Mysteries: A True Crime Podcast

[Update] Marie Versos & Debbie Cisco: A Law Born from Tragedy

Moms and Mysteries: A True Crime Podcast

Moms got ya covered-feed

True Crime

4.6 • 8.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In June 2022, Shaun Varsos  murdered his ex-wife Marie Versos and her mother Debbie Cisco in a calculated act of domestic violence. Despite Marie's desperate attempts to protect herself—including obtaining a restraining order and filing for divorce—the system failed her. Shaun had been released from jail just days before the murders, and Marie had no idea he was free. Shaun shot and killed both Marie and Debbie, then posted a manifesto on social media blaming Marie for everything before taking his own life. Marie's brother Alex found the post and immediately knew something was wrong, but it was too late. This episode is an UPDATE because in the wake of this tragedy, Ohio passed "Marie & Debbie's Law"—requiring that domestic violence victims be notified when their abuser is released from custody. Alex Versos fought tirelessly for this law, turning his grief into action that could save countless lives. This is a story of domestic violence, systemic failure, and a family's fight to ensure no one else suffers the same fate. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence: National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) Text START to 88788 or visit thehotline.org New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday! Follow us on Instagram: @momsandmysteries Join our Patreon: patreon.com/momsandmysteries Visit our website: momsandmysteries.com #TrueCrime #Podcast #FloridaMoms #DomesticViolence #MarieAndDebbiesLaw #Ohio #JusticeReform #DomesticAbuse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey guys and welcome to the Moms and Mysteries podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself, Mandy, and my dear friend Melissa. Hi, Melissa. Hi, Mandy. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you? I'm doing great. You're looking at Dorbs and your new glasses. Well, thank you so much. Yes, glasses are a new thing in my life. Well, kind of. I've had glasses before. Well, I was supposed to and I didn't wear them. And now as a result of that, my vision is worse. So now I have to wear them.

0:28.6

I absolutely hear you. And I'm right behind you on that. I can't find mine. But then I realize my prescriptions change. So I should probably just, you know, get the ones that work.

0:38.8

But Mandy, we are going to do something a little bit different today. We're actually going to be

0:42.7

revisiting a case that we told back in October of 2023. And it's a big one. The update is big.

0:50.3

The story was big. And there have been these huge, significant updates and even changes to

0:56.4

the laws, which we haven't seen a whole lot of. And we get to share all of that with you guys

1:01.1

at the end of the episode. So we're going to play the episode of the murder of Marie Varsos

1:06.1

and Debbie Sisko. And at the end, stick around because we have a huge update to tell you guys.

1:15.3

Since 1987, October has actually been recognized as National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.

1:21.5

And according to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, the month was started as a way to

1:26.2

connect and unite individuals and organizations working on domestic violence issues the month was started as a way to connect and unite individuals and

1:28.1

organizations working on domestic violence issues while also raising awareness for them.

1:32.8

Although there's been great progress made over the last 30 years, the mission to support domestic

1:37.6

violence victims and survivors and to hold their abusers accountable remains a top priority

1:42.4

for the NCAA. And they work to create and update legislation

1:47.1

to further those goals. Unfortunately, domestic violence is something that the world continues to

1:52.7

struggle with, and the threat that domestic violence victims face is very real. Today's story

1:58.1

is a cautionary tale that reminds us that sometimes even when we do everything right to

2:02.4

protect ourselves and stay safe, it's not enough. There's still a lot of work to do when it comes

2:07.6

to protecting victims of domestic violence and preventing their abusers from escalating violence

2:12.0

against them. It was April 12, 2021 when Alex Jan logged into Facebook and saw a post that immediately made his stomach sink.

2:21.2

The post was by a 36-year-old Sean Varsos, Alex's brother-in-law.

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