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Truth Be Told Presents: She Has A Name

Unwavering Love

Truth Be Told Presents: She Has A Name

American Public Media

True Crime, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

For many of us, the church is a place of refuge. It’s where we first experience community and an understanding of love. But real talk: what do you do as a non binary person if the place that made you, doesn’t exactly accept who you are?
That’s the dilemma from our very own editor James T. Green, who explores their identity and faith with renowned writer and poet, Nikki Giovanni. In this conversation, Nikki shares some of her most intimate truths with James, including her own challenges with the institution of the Black church.
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0:00.0

You ever watch someone get the Holy Ghost?

0:04.0

When you're a kid, it is really scary to watch, but it's also liberating.

0:11.0

Sometimes, it was like watching a volcano explode.

0:15.0

The person's so full of the spirit they kind of tumble down the church aisle

0:20.0

to the waiting arms of our pastor.

0:22.0

Other times it was like a to the waiting arms of our pastor.

0:26.0

Other times, it was like a quiet surrender. Big fat tears streaming down their faces,

0:30.0

their arms reaching towards the sky,

0:33.4

more than anything as a kid, I wanted to feel what that was all about.

0:39.1

Mostly because there is nothing quite like the joy and pride of a black family watching

0:46.2

your salvation. The other day the truth be told team got to talking about our church memories and our editor James told us about the time he got baptized.

0:58.0

It wasn't my decision. I remember one day being told by my parents that I was going to be baptized and

1:03.6

days later along with a handful of other preteens I was dunked in a small light blue

1:08.5

plastic waiting pool hidden behind the pole pit.

1:11.3

James is originally from the Chicago area,

1:14.4

and he was one of those kids

1:16.1

who basically lived in church,

1:18.2

mainly because my dad was an ordained minister.

1:21.4

But even though our family spent so much time there building community, I never really felt a part of it. Most of the time, I felt alone.

1:30.0

His father taught him to be leery of what he called worldly people.

1:34.8

And as James got older, he started to resent that way of thinking,

1:39.2

because he felt different. On this episode of Truth Be Told, is it possible to be queer, love the Lord, and feel acceptance from the community that made you.

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