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I'm your host, Greg Sargent.

Earlier this week, New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham signed a handful of new gun control bills.

The state has seen a terrible spade of gun violence that drew national attention,

leading her to declare a state of public emergency that infuriated some gun rights activists.

Lujan Grisham is in the middle of some important trends in our politics right now, such as the success

of Democrats in border states, the transformation of the Southwest in a pro-democratic direction,

and the rise of the female Democratic governor in the era of Donald Trump. So we invited the governor on the show

to talk about all of this. Welcome, Governor. Thank you very much for having me, Greg.

First, we have to ask about the retirement of Senator Kirsten Cinema in neighboring Arizona.

That's a tough state for Democrats. Can Congressman Ruben Gallego prevail there?

I think he can. You know, I think actually to some degree, it's less complicated on the numbers,

just pure politics, not substance. I have a relationship with both Kirsten and Congressman Gallegos. I think not having a potential third-party candidate

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