And I just want to respond to someone in the chat, Moonlight View, I think, asked if this is terrorism.

That's a difficult question.

We know what they're doing is terrorized some people, but we're not sure what the ultimate goal of the gang was.

Like we know the ultimate goal of the Manson gang was to kill a whole bunch of people.

Manson himself wanted to start a race war.

But in this case, the shootings seem to be connected to the cult, but there doesn't seem to be a theme.

Maybe they just are striking out because they felt threatened. And in the case in Vermont, they may have felt very threatened to be stopped by the police.

They've got at least two guns in the car.

They've probably got a number of different cell phones, and we know they have a number of different

laptops. Maybe they were going to go to Canada, maybe to get away from the board patrol.

Maybe they were going to do a hit somewhere, but they were spooked and they and they were and

they probably realized that if they did go along quietly with the police, that they would

probably, neither one of them would probably be free. They probably would

be held in custody. So I think they had a lot to lose. Maybe they were going to Canada. Maybe

they were going to do something else. But they felt very threatened and they shot it out. That is

not the way, you know, a 20-year-old, even a hard-bitten, you know, New York City street thug is going to do

with police. You shoot it out right there on the side of the road.

You know, Mike, when we first saw this before we knew any of this information, we said she's

been radicalized.

That's right.

What 21-year-old is going to get out of a car in Vermont and bang it out with the border patrol unless they've been radicalized and somewhere.

The other thing, there is a drug component to this.

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