So, Mike, I want to go to you first because I know even though we put out a lot of new things,

a lot of new material tonight, it's quite confusing, isn't it?

Yeah, Billy, you've got this cult starts in out, Vallejo, California, outside of San Francisco.

A couple of years ago, they get involved in assaulting, seriously assaulting and

trying to kill Mr. Lind. That goes awry. There's one seriously, one of the cult

managers is killed, one is seriously wounded. Then he ends up being killed by Maximilian. and then on the,

and that's in California.

And on the,

just about the same day on the East Coast,

you have the shootout with the Border Patrol where you have Buckholt and you

have Youngblood and, you know,

Youngblood is alive and the Border Patrol, poor, officer, Mayland, and Buckhold, they're dead.

And so then you have the connection with Vermont, which is the property that was owned by the son, or now what you call the daughter of the Zaycos.

So you've got Vermont, you've got Pennsylvania, you've got California,

all these cult members are involved in these three states.

From what we know, it doesn't seem like the biggest cult,

but strangely enough, they are as violent as any cult like you even talk said this the very

beginning uh like the manson cult uh they are very very dangerous very deadly cult

Phil I'm going to put this um uh thumbnail up on the screen and if you can read it I would like you

to do so sure I think this is um this the ziz And if you can read it, I would like you to do so.

Sure.

I think this is the Ziz cult.

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