This is the Jocco Unraveling podcast with Darryl Cooper and myself, Jocco Willink.

So I've had some pretty fun conversations over the year with a guy by the name of Sam Harris.

Do you know Sam?

Not personally, no, I've followed his work for a long time.

I'll have to introduce you to you, get along splendidly.

We have an ongoing Twitter spat, which is he threatens me physically that he's going

to choke me and beat me to a pulp and whatnot, and that I would never dare fight him.

And then I retort with the intellectual side, challenging him to debate me or have a spelling

contest or something like that.

We're clearly having fun.

It's always interesting because it's not, it comes up once every two, three months.

There's always a few people saying, Jocco, you're a freaking idiot.

This guy's a brilliant neuroscientist.

What are you doing?

And there's also some people that say, Sam, what are you doing?

Idiot, freaking Jocco, it's a black phone.

You do to outweigh twice your body weight.

So there's always some people that take it serious and defend either defend me or they defend

Sam.

So thank you for getting engaged, but we are just in fact having fun.

Why am I talking about Sam?

Sam wrote a book called Free Will and in the book Free Will.

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