Unqualified MAGA and the Politics of Hate
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
A new study suggests Americans distrust each other more than almost any other nation, and Esau, Malcolm and Mike wrestle with whether we've crossed a line we can't come back from. They dig into the deeper spiritual roots of our outrage, asking what it actually means to love your enemies in an age of constant political combat. Then the conversation turns to Hollywood's obsession with youth and what our fear of aging reveals about us. They also take on the controversy over an unqualified Surgeon General nominee and what it says about leadership, loyalty, and truth. Also this week: Mike shoots his shot, Malcolm runs late, and somehow height insecurity becomes a real topic.
0:00 - Malcolm's Too Famous
1:37 - Theme Song
4:17 - Oscars and Plastic Surgery
8:54 - Mike's Too Tall
12:17 - End Stage Polarization
24:46 - Ideological Purity
32:40 - Unqualified Surgeon General
49:24 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | We can't really have an open because Malcolm was so busy being a celebrity. |
| 0:04.8 | Yeah. |
| 0:05.2 | He's like, I was hanging out with Show Baraka guys. Yeah. I couldn't make it on time. But also he was, Malcolm is currently in Chicago. He's like 40 minutes from us. Look at, he's locked up. He doesn't even have good, he doesn't have good reception. It's terrible. We can barely see you. Pixelated. You are 40 minutes away from us. |
| 0:21.5 | He's pixelated. |
| 0:22.5 | And then he's like, wait a second. |
| 0:23.4 | Show Baraka wants to hang out. It's terrible. We can barely see you. He pixelated. You are 40 minutes away from us. |
| 0:21.5 | He's pixelated. And then he's like, wait a second. Show Baracka wants to hang out. So I can't make it. The crazy part about all of this is when he said he was late to recording, I thought he was going to say, like, I'm in traffic. I'm somewhere else. He was just in a different hotel room within his hotel. He could have just said, hey, man, can we pick this conversation up in an hour? |
| 0:40.5 | Right. |
| 0:40.8 | I got to go do something. It wasn't like he was part of a conference. He was casually hanging out with someone else. And show's like, don't you have a podcast to be done? He's like, ah, they can wait for me. They can wait for me. Do you have any other insights on for show? And show's been on the podcast. He's still, he doesn't have his technology. No. Can we hear you? Do you have anything to say? Nothing. Nothing right now. Nothing. We cannot hear you at all. Oh yeah. The new mic that we bought you, by the way. The mic that Holy Post Media bought you, he's got to set it up. got to set it up. He's just breaking it out of the box for the first time. Some people you can't get, you know, this is one of the questions we asked. Like, you know, when I think about who we're going to extend the Holy Post cosine and the platform to, we try to do a character check to see if they can handle like but like you know he clearly can't |
| 1:28.9 | apparently not he clearly apparently not this is too much for him okay on his head all right |
| 1:35.1 | we might actually have to help him out here hello everyone welcome to the esau macaul podcast. I'm your host, Esau McCauley. Today we're joined by Malcolm Foley, who's filming on location. Where are you, Malcolm? |
| 1:54.2 | I'm in Chicago. Oh, okay. I'm sorry, Malcolm. How far is Chicago from here? |
| 1:59.7 | I'm like an hour away from you guys. Oh, it's an hour instead of 45 minutes. Malcolm, who could not be bothered to Uber down here because he doesn't, he's not really loving the crew. And we also have our producer, Mike. You drove an hour in snow this morning to make sure I could be here in person. Okay, Malcolm And Malcolm, before we start, you were a little bit late to the recording. |
| 2:20.7 | Were you caught in traffic or something? What happened? What made you a little bit late |
| 2:23.8 | to recording? What were you doing? I was two floors down downstairs and in show Baraka's |
| 2:30.6 | room. Oh, very for show that we have tonight in Chicago. We preparing tonight you were preparing for the show tonight instead of the podcast that's right now yeah and it was celebrity it'd be different if you said I was caught in traffic I was like I couldn't get here I would just chewing the fat with somebody more famous than y'all so I'm late I see how we rate it was some real i'll get here |
| 2:52.6 | when i get here energy when he first showed up on riverside he gave us like the the pointer finger in the |
| 2:57.7 | air like hang on hang on i know i've already been making you wait 10 minutes but i need a few more i'm sorry |
| 3:02.9 | i get it i i'm sorry i was saying this earlier you know we try to be good stewards of our platform here at the Holy Post. And we try to say, can somebody handle emotionally, spiritually, like the responsibilities of having an expanded kind of media presence. Yeah. We read anti-greed gospel. We think, of course, Malcolm can handle it. |
| 3:25.2 | Yeah. Now he's like... I need a minute. I need a minute. Show and Barack are planning our trip to Disney next week. First of all, why is he on a tour with Show Baraka? He don't rap. He don't sing. I get it. I get it. I get it. Welcome to the podcast. Yeah. |
| 3:42.0 | Speaking of fame. |
| 3:44.2 | Yeah. |
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