Unpacking Title 42 with Thomas Saenz

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

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🗓️ 17 May 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Title 42, a decades old and rarely used public health order used to bar people with medical conditions from entering the country, revived by the Trump administration, enables immigration authorities to swiftly expel migrants to Mexico or their home countries. The enforcement of the policy, which also bars individuals from seeking asylum, continues to be met with skepticism by immigration advocates and public health officials. The Biden administration and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently announced plans to end Title 42 by May 23rd, now that vaccines are widely available. But the fate of the policy remains in limbo because of Republican-backed lawsuits and opposition to its cessation. Thomas Saenz is president and General Counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund (MALDEF). Saenz joins WITHpod to discuss the role of misinformation in the characterization of migrants, immigration and refugee policy reform and the implications of a potential continuation (or end) of Title 42. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads. You'll also get exclusive bonus content from this and other shows. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0	The end game is to get legislative policy making that is not infected by racism or demographic
0:08.5	fear that is being derived for the long-term interest not just of the United States but of
0:15.9	our relations with other countries and peoples around the world and that better reflects
0:22.0	our constitutional values.
0:23.8	And frankly, we've never had that.
0:25.8	Hello, and welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.
0:38.8	One of the weirdest polling results that you routinely see these days is when you ask people
0:44.7	their top issues.
0:45.7	There's some that are, you know, up near the cop that you would 100% expect, like inflation
0:50.0	for instance.
0:51.0	Like, yeah, inflation is 8%.
0:53.0	The highest it's been in 40 years.
0:55.7	Inflation hits all kinds of people like that makes complete and total sense.
0:59.6	The Americans would say like the number one issue for me right now is inflation or the
1:02.5	economy.
1:03.5	The number of people who would say COVID or the pandemic has dropped quite a bit as we've
1:08.8	gone through the pandemic, but obviously during previous times that would be near the
1:12.2	top.
1:13.4	Education, you know, obviously important issue.
1:17.2	People that have particularly have kids in school.
1:20.8	One of the issues you will see near the top in every list is the border, the border, the
1:25.2	border, the border.
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