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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

‘Allow Me to Retort’ with Elie Mystal

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

“Forced labor is already unconstitutional and what is forced birth other than forcing a woman to labor against her will?” remarked Elie Mystal, a justice correspondent at The Nation, following the leak of a Supreme Court draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade. Mystal is also author of the New York Times bestselling book, “Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution,” in which he points out problems with-and solutions for- reversing systemic issues created by America’s founding document. He joins WITHpod to discuss his objections to conservative interpretations of rights, abortion rights law, changes he’d make to the Constitution, and revisions he’d make to the structure of the Supreme Court and more. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads. You'll also get exclusive bonus content from this and other shows. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

First, labor is already unconstitutional.

0:05.5

And what is forced birth other than forcing a woman to labor against her well because

0:11.2

allegedly the state has an interest in that.

0:14.7

Guess what folks?

0:15.7

Just because the state thinks it's important doesn't mean that they can force you to do the

0:19.0

work for the state without pay against your well.

0:22.5

The state might say it is very important that somebody picked this content.

0:27.4

Like you know what, they can't force me to do it.

0:30.1

They have to find a willing person to pick that content, can't make me do it.

0:34.2

That's the 13th amendment.

0:35.5

Same thing should apply to abortion rights.

0:38.0

Hello, welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:47.5

Well, I think for most Americans, and maybe not the majority of listeners to this podcast,

0:55.2

but most people, and even honestly, like pretty news junky news consumer folks, just don't

1:01.1

spend a lot of time in their life thinking about the Supreme Court or the courts more broadly.

1:05.2

It's not a front of mind news concern.

1:08.4

Obviously, people that are legal practitioners or law nerds or even Supreme court nerds

1:14.5

who are really obsessed with it.

1:16.2

I should speak full disclosure that my wife is one of those people.

1:18.9

She clerks for Justice John Paul Stevens and now is a law professor and is co-host of

1:24.0

a podcast called Strix scrutiny with Melissa Marie and Leah Lippmann, where they talk about

1:28.2

the Supreme Court and the culture around the court.

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