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Unpacking Europe: How Europe is responding in Lebanon and Palestine

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🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s Unpacking Europe podcast, the CER’s Clara Marina O’Donnell fellow (2025-2026) Thomas Maddock sat down with Zizette Darkazally, Associate Fellow at the Middle East and North Africa programme at Chatham House, and Schams El Ghoneimi, a former Advisor on Middle East and North Africa affairs to Renew Europe in the European Parliament. They took a detailed look at how Europe is responding to two conflicts happening on its doorstep, Israel's war in Lebanon and the continuing humanitarian crisis and Israeli violence in Palestine. They discussed what the key challenges to the EU’s current response are, and what should be prioritised in the upcoming EU Middle East strategy.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the latest episode of Unpacking Europe, the Centre for European

0:10.3

Reforms podcast. My name is Thomas Maddoch, and I'm the C.R.'s Clara Marina O'Donnell Fellow for

0:15.2

2025 to 26. And in today's episode, we're going to be discussing how Europe is responding to two conflicts

0:21.5

happening on its doorstep, Israel's war in Lebanon, and the continuing humanitarian crisis

0:26.0

and Israeli violence in Palestine. The past few months, and especially since the start of the

0:30.3

U.S. and Israeli war in Iran, have further destabilized the region and have unleashed new waves

0:35.4

of violence. In Gaza, though a fragile thief fire remains

0:38.5

between Hamas and Israel, it's hard to describe the situation as being at peace. Repeated Israeli

0:43.6

strikes on Gaza continue, and according to Mitzin-Sense-Francierge, vital humanitarian assistance

0:48.8

remains blocked by Israeli authorities. Hamas disarmament talks have stalled, throwing into doubt

0:53.6

the stability of the peace

0:54.7

process. Meanwhile, Israel's violence in the West Bank has also escalated quite dramatically,

0:59.9

with Israel's illegal settlement campaign proliferating. Israel's occupation has been described

1:04.6

as a de facto annexation. Then what about in Lebanon? As of early May 2025, Al Jazeera has

1:10.1

reported that at least 2,700,

1:12.5

Lebanese people have been killed in Israeli attacks and over one million displaced,

1:16.7

representing about one in five people in Lebanon. A ceasefire deal between Lebanon and Israel

1:21.8

was announced by US President Donald Trump in April, but again, there are little signs that

1:25.6

this has actually stopped the fighting. Which brings me to today's topic, what is the EU doing in response to all of this?

1:31.4

The EU has pushed for a cessation of hostilities and for humanitarian aid to flow in,

1:36.1

but there have been cause for a more robust EU response to all of this.

1:39.6

Almost 450 former European officials signed a statement urging further action against Israel,

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