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app. Hi, it's Andy here.

Hi, it's Andy here and welcome to Radio Head Space and to Thursday morning.

So a few days back I was chatting with a friend.

I think he'd recently been reading a thread on, I don't know, Slack or LinkedIn or one of those things.

And he was talking about a particular person he'd come across who was receiving a lot of

congratulations from their friends, from their work colleagues

for having landed their dream job.

And he said he couldn't quite understand at first sort of, you know, he was, of course people

would be happy for this person but when he started

looking into he started to understand why there was so much sort of feedback and not even

from sort of strangers not just people that they knew and it was because this person had been after this job for a really, really long time.

They'd applied and hadn't got the job on multiple occasions, but had continued and had this

sort of sense of perseverance, a sense of, okay, this is something I really want to do.

It's not about whether I get a yes or a no, whether it works straight away, it's about how do I create the conditions and how do I

persevere to the point where eventually it starts to work for me.

And it was interesting as we were chatting through this and I was thinking when I was

thinking when I was learning meditation at first I was told I'd need two things.

I'd need commitment and I'd need two things. I'd need commitment and I'd need flexibility. In fact I

remember saying to the teacher, actually I'm still pretty young. I was in my early

20s at the time and I was in my early 20s at the time and I was thinking maybe maybe there's still a bit more life to live

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