Welcome to the Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast.

My name is Pete Scuzeiro.

I'm here with...

Jerry Skisero.

And today, our podcast theme is Unleash the God-Given voice of your people.

I'm just so happy to have you here with us, honey, on this E.H. Leader podcast.

Thank you. Yep. I'm excited to be here.

So we're going to be doing a series of eight different podcasts together. Each one will stand alone, but they're all going to be connected. And really, the theme is setting people free,

which is whole Jesus mission in Luke chapter 4. But we have to get free

first so we can set everybody else free around us. And then we get to unleash the God-given voice,

destiny, and power of all the people that we serve. But after 40 years of leading, one of the

biggest gaps in leadership formation and training that we've observed and how to build healthy,

mature community or relationships or teams has to do with this a massive gap in our leadership

formation and or discipleship. And so we were not taught, and we weren't taught how to create safety for everyone on our

teams, for example, so everyone can feel empowered to be whom God's made them to be, so they can

communicate clearly and honestly. We weren't taught skills. I had to love well, especially those

with whom we're serving with in leadership. We weren't taught nuances.

We didn't have it modeled.

We knew nothing about it.

And we weren't trained how to help people actually assert themselves in a mature, healthy,

whole, loving way.

And so we experienced the first 17 years of us in leadership, constant tensions, constant

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