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In today's podcast, join me in conversation with Scott Santons.

Scott is a writer and advocate for universal basic income or UBI.

UBI is the notion that citizens should receive a guaranteed monthly income, regardless of work,

wealth or their social contribution.

It's an idea that's taking hold in many circles.

There are experiments taking place in Finland, Canada and Kenya and

a host of other nations. UBI has brought together supporters from the left and right and

has detractors from both sides.

Scott Santons is a prominent advocate for UBI.

He joins me for a chat where we explore some of the issues.

It's great to have Scott Santons with me.

Scott is one of the big proponents of a universal basic income.

So good afternoon, Scott.

Well, thanks for having me.

It's great to have you here.

Why don't you just give us a 30 second

introduction as to who you are and how you've come to be a promote proponents of universal basic income?

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