There's no shortage of tech podcasts, but few give you a true dose of the future.

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It takes you straight to the innovators behind new materials, data centers, self-driving cars, even electric boats,

eavesdrop on the future with the Aonential View podcast. I'm Azimazar, curator of The Exponential

View. The music you heard in the intro to this podcast was generated algorithmically by the Sink Project.

And today I'm going to be talking to Marco Artissari, the founder and CEO of Sink

Project, which is a company that is looking to use personalized generated music has precision medicine.

Marco, it's great to have you here. Where do I find you this afternoon?

I'm right in Boston, on South Street and the Leather District right in downtown Boston.

You know, we go back quite a long way. I think it's nearly 18 years now from when we met during the

heyday of the dot-com bubble. That was in London and how have you ended up in in Boston today in 2017? I know it's 18 years, but just tell us what your journey has been over the last nearly two decades.

Wow, that's right. We've known each other for a long time. From the time we met, I really continued on working in product design, initially in software interaction design.

I was working at Nokia for a little while,

then worked in two startups,

co-founded a company called Doppler,

which was an early social network for the world's most frequent travelers,

building a kind of social atlas from their travel patterns. Nokia acquired that company.

I was then head of product design at Nokia responsible for industrial design, user experience design and packaging.

At a very turbulent time there, but was lucky to have such colleagues did some incredible work and then when

Microsoft bought the Nokia phones business I decided to not go with that acquisition and wanted to take a little bit of time off and think about the next thing and that brought me to the MIT Media Lab, the director of the Media Lab Joe Eito, asked me to be a director's fellow there and during that time as I was thinking

about other things I didn't really want to continue on doing kind of extreme industrial scale product making, but more back to services and systems.

And I was thinking a lot about health and well-being, also at the the lab and that's when Joey introduced me to the idea of Sink Project and a co-founder

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