This is the Kator Daily Podcast for Thursday, October 26, 2017.

I'm Caleb Brown.

Home health care workers provide intimate services.

Those workers are often family members or friends.

The money they're paid often allows them to take off work and provide care.

Governor Wolf and Pennsylvania issued an order making it easier to push these workers into

unions.

The Fairness Center is challenging that order.

I spoke with David Osborne or the Fairness Center at the State Policy Network annual

meeting about their lawsuit. In this case, you know when you think about a home health care worker, someone who is, the relationship

between a home health care worker and somebody who needs that care is extremely intimate and it is somebody that you

should have a great deal of trust in and it's the fact that it could be a close

friend or a family member is a really important

benefit to the people who need this care. It's got to be a close friend. You're right

about the intimacy. So Don, Lambert, our other client in this case is the

home care worker for David. And Don has to go in the middle of the night to turn David over

in his bed, Otherwise David would develop

bed sores. When I go over and visit and talk to them I bring smoothies because

smoothies work best. And Don has to hold the smoothie up to David's face in order for David to take advantage of the straw.

That's real intimacy and these guys have to do that not just one or two times but all the time

24-7 and secondly he would never do it for the money right these

guys make on average twenty thousand dollars a year home care workers are not going to get

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