Well, here's the thing. This gets us into the space for radical hope. What we would say is leaving

space for grace. Leaving space for grace, which is novelty, which is emergence, which is serendipity,

which is delayed or deferred luck, or totally, you know, planable consequences of y'all can, but

there's things we can't see from here. And if we give up the faith, then they cannot happen.

So we have to keep the faith in case they might. It's a little like Linus in the pumpkin patch.

Right? We got a key. I meant when the great pumpkin comes not if, right? You can't give up the

faith of your fucked.

Okay, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Michael Jervé,

by trade and training. I'm a sport and performance psychologist. And the whole idea behind

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the human experience in business and sport and science in life in general. We pull back the

curtain to explore how they have committed to mastering both their craft and their minds

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