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I'm Christa Tippett. Up next, my unedited conversation with Sharon Salzburg, the renowned

teacher of Buddhist tools for living. There is, as always, a shorter, produced version of this,

wherever you found this podcast. Hi. Hi. Oh, hi Sharon, there you are. Hello, yeah.

So I've got some things, some work being done on my house, which of course is not just my house

anymore, right? It's my office, it's my exercise space. It's, yeah, it's my dormant,

sometimes dormantory and co-working space. So I'm getting these things done on my house. I

thought it was all going to be done this morning, but they're on the other side. So, Chris, if you

hear, I mean, I don't hear anything sitting here, but you're, okay, because you're, I mean,

but your ears, in quotation marks, are often so much more sensitive than mine.

Yeah. Now they're, they're mostly they're scraping. Like it's noisy if you're over there,

but they're not banging so that I think it'll come through. Okay. Oh, Sharon, I'm so happy to have

you. I'm so happy to see you. Be with you. I'm so happy to be with you. Chris, how are we? Oh,

let me push your record over here. Okay. Excellent. Yeah. No, you sound great. The audio quality is

great. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we actually redid this room in my house so I could do

the audio version of my book. Oh, which was like total, total torture doing because it was boiling

hot and that, you know, they'd say like people with some of the producer, I guess would say,

I hear the sound you hit the mic and then the sound engineer would say, I think that was birds.

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