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The Reverend Jennifer Bailey is a gentle source of my confidence in the human future.

She's a young pastor and social innovator, wise before her time.

As healers of the healers, she and her colleagues support people to sustain themselves,

their communities, and social movements from a place of spirit, creativity, and courage.

Across these last years, I've also come to love Jen as a friend of a different generation.

She and I both believe that cross-generational accompaniment is essential to meeting this

century's callings towards belonging and healing. We draw each other out this hour in that spirit.

There is something about the fact that we are mortal, that there is a definite beginning,

middle and end to the arc of our lives, that is at once humbling, but it also freezes up so much.

Yeah. It does allow us to have this generational view that like, well, I'm here and one day I'm

not going to be here. And so I can do what I can do during this time. And at the same time,

I can pass on that which came to me as seed as blossom and let somebody else plant it,

intend to it. And that is so freeing. And if I could go back and talk to a younger version of

myself, I would say it's okay to not build the whole house. It's okay to lay a foundation

and be satisfied in that. Yeah, but it's so great that you can say that to your younger self when

you're still only in your 30s. That's kind of evolutionary progress in my mind.

I'm Christa Tipett and this is on Being.

Back in 2016, when I first experienced Jen Bailey, she reminded me that the biblical word for

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