[Unedited] Robin DiAngelo and Resmaa Menakem with Krista Tippett

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.7 • 10.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2021

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Through the ruptures of the past year and more, we’ve been given so much to learn, and callings to live differently. But how to do that, and where to begin? Resmaa Menakem’s book, My Grandmother's Hands, and his original insights into racialized trauma in all kinds of bodies, have offered new ways forward for us all. So we said yes when Resmaa proposed that he join On Being together with Robin DiAngelo. She has been a foremost white voice in our civilizational grappling with whiteness. This conversation is not comfortable, but it is electric and it opens possibility.

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0:00.0	Support for on-being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute, helping build
0:04.5	the Spiritual Foundation for a loving world.
0:07.7	Fetzer's new study, what does spirituality mean to us?
0:11.4	Reveals how spirituality informs our understanding of ourselves and each other, and inspires us
0:16.5	to take action for the common good.
0:18.8	Explore these findings and more at spiritualitystudy.org.
0:23.5	I'm Christa Tippett.
0:25.0	Up next, my unedited conversation with Robin D'Angelo, who's known for her work on White
0:30.8	Fragility, together with a therapist and trauma specialist, Resma Menachum.
0:36.5	There is, as always, a shorter, produced version of this wherever you found this podcast.
0:43.3	Okay.
0:44.3	Well, let me just say, Robin, it's lovely to meet you.
0:50.8	We had actually been in a conversation with somebody who we were talking about doing
0:54.4	a live event later this year before March about having you join the show there.
1:03.3	So, I'm glad to meet you and have you and being in conversation with you.
1:09.6	And, Resma, wow, here we are.
1:12.1	Here we are.
1:13.1	We're shifted on its axis after we spoke.
1:16.1	Yeah.
1:17.1	Yeah.
1:27.8	There was a moment where I heard an echo, but that went away.
1:30.8	Christa, can you say something again?
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