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Undoing The Work w/Lisa Guerci

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IndoctriNation

Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2022

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Lisa Guerci was raised, from the age of five, in a Connecticut-based doomsday cult known as "The Work", led by a man who called himself Brother Julius and eventually God. His message was that he was a sin-demonstrating Messiah sent to bring about the end of the world. The altered reality of this small but extremely toxic group was Lisa's entire life until she escaped at age 26, with her young daughter. In this illuminating and moving conversation, Lisa opens up to Rachel about the deep trauma she experienced from being raised by her mother, a follower of the infamous cult leader "Brother Julius" She details the complex and difficult relationships with her immediate family, outlining the emotional damage and long-lasting effects of familial destruction at the hands of this manipulative and sociopathic cult leader. Together, Rachel and Lisa break down the steps she took toward recovery explaining the healing power of creativity, resilience, and storytelling. Before You Go: Rachel expands on the notion of the "sinful messiah" exposing the manipulative yet clever and effective tactic leaders use to avoid accountability from allegations of abuse. You can watch the documentary on Brother Julius mentioned in the show here: https://youtu.be/hmbkldpftJE You can purchase Rachel's webinar series LIVING IN FREEDOM here: rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control. I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.6

Hi, everyone. Today on the show we have Lisa Gersy. Lisa was raised from the age of five in a Connecticut-based doomsday cult known as the work,

0:24.2

led by a man who called himself Brother Julius and eventually God. His message was that he was a sin

0:31.7

demonstrating Messiah sent to bring about the end of the world. The altered reality of this small but extremely toxic group

0:40.7

was Lisa's entire life until she escaped at age 26 with her young daughter.

0:47.2

It's a very powerful story, very powerful experiences,

0:50.9

and an incredible case study about this man who called himself the Messiah.

0:58.8

Here is Lisa now.

1:16.5

I am very happy to have Lisa Gersie on the show today.

1:23.8

You have such a story to tell, and I know you've been telling it, and it's so powerful when people get to the point in their lives where they say, I need to put this together

1:28.9

and kind of write out what happened, also be willing and able to address questions. It's time.

1:37.1

It's time to expose what happened. It's also time probably as part of a person's healing to be able to

1:44.1

not be too afraid to talk and not be

1:47.2

too afraid of the leader because usually these leaders can be quite intimidating in their way

1:52.4

and scary actually more than intimidating so it says a lot when people say okay i'm done being

2:00.1

too afraid i'm done being pushed into silence.

2:05.2

And so I want to welcome you today. I know it's going to be an important and heavy discussion.

2:11.8

And so welcome and please let us know a little bit about you. I live in a small town, a suburb of New York City.

2:19.2

I have two children, two grandchildren. I work as a caregiver and an advocate for the developmentally

2:24.8

disabled community. I'm also a writer and a poet. I am working on a memoir called The Work, the World,

2:31.2

and Me in Between about my experiences. I have a book, book of poetry coming out, hopefully by the end of the year.

2:37.8

I wanted to dovetail on a piece of that for a moment before we continue.

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