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I am so happy to be able to have Francis Peters on the show. She is speaking to me from the Netherlands.

And it's so exciting. Actually, there are a number of people who listen to the podcast in your part of the world, which has really been

exciting to me to hear from people all over. And I'm always curious what speaks to people in

certain areas of the world. But before we get into all of that and all the many things we're

going to cover, I just want to say how nice it is to see you. It's been way too long.

Very happy to be here.

So thank you for inviting me.

Of course.

Of course.

There's something exciting that we worked on together a few years back that you've been

able to stay connected to.

And I unfortunately needed to move on from it because I couldn't devote the time.

But I believe wholeheartedly

in it and I refer people to it. And I, as part of our talk today, I would love you to talk more about

it because I'm always trying to introduce people to resources that are available to them.

But it's always so lovely to talk to you, you're wise and calming and funny. And it's a nice

combination. So tell us a little bit about you and what you're doing and also what brings you

into this field. And then we will go ahead. At the moment, I'm a coach counselor

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