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. Hi and welcome back to Undisclosed. My name's Robya Jodry. I'm an attorney and author, and I am joined by my co-host Colin Miller. Hi, Colin.

Hey, how are you doing? This is Colin Miller. I am a professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law, and I blog

at evidence prof blog.

Man, it is good to see you, Colin, after quite a minute. And we have been meaning to relaunch

undisclosed, and we're finally here. Yeah, it's taken us some time to think things through,

build up some cases, but now we're both in a good position to start things back up again.

Yeah. And it's been, let's see, has it been about two, by the time we relaunch, and we're

planning on relaunching with a brand new season in late spring of this year, it will have been,

is it two or three years? Now I'm losing track of time since we... I think three years, I think we

stopped maybe February 2020, so now we're February 2025.

You are an encyclopedia, so I know you're right.

I know you're right of that.

A lot has happened since then in both of our lives, too, not just in the workspace.

But yes, I finally feel like the space has reopened.

And this work to both of us and Susan,

by the way, Susan's gone on to make proof, which is a fantastic wrongful conviction podcast

that has had impact and helped actually release innocent defendants. We have continued to do

the innocence work in the background because it's kind of like the heart of our, what we love to

do now. But what we love to do now.

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