Understanding trichotillomania (hair-pulling) and other body-focused repetitive behaviors, with Clare Mackay, PhD, and Suzanne Mouton-Odum, PhD
Speaking of Psychology
Kim Mills
4.5 • 839 Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2025
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:31.6 | Body-focused repetitive behaviors like trichotillomania or chronic hair pulling, as well as skin picking, nail biting, |
| 0:40.3 | and others may affect up to 1 and 20 people. Yet, despite how common they are, BFRBs, as they're called, |
| 0:49.3 | remain stigmatized, misunderstood, and underdiagnosed. Today we're going to talk with two experts about why that is |
| 0:56.3 | and about how our understanding of BFRBs has evolved in recent years. So what are body-focused |
| 1:02.6 | repetitive behaviors? How do they differ from ordinary habits? When and why do they start and why are they so |
| 1:08.9 | hard to stop? How does living with |
| 1:11.7 | Trichotillomania or another BFRB affect people's lives and their mental health? |
| 1:17.4 | What kinds of treatments and therapies can help? |
| 1:23.1 | Welcome to Speaking of Psychology, the flagship podcast of the American Psychological Association |
| 1:28.2 | that examines the links between psychological science and everyday life. |
| 1:32.7 | I'm Kim Mills. |
| 1:37.5 | We have two guests today. |
| 1:39.3 | First is Dr. Suzanne Muton-Odom, a clinical assistant professor of psychology at the Baylor College of Medicine, |
| 1:45.8 | and the founder and director of Psychology, Houston, the Center for Cognitive Behavioral Treatment. |
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