Hello, folks. Welcome back to the WOOP podcast. I'm your host, Will Ahmed, founder and CEO of WOOP,

and we are on a mission to unlock human performance. That's right. The WOOP membership includes

hardware and software and analytics that's designed to help you improve your health and improve your performance.

You can get on WOOP if you use the code Will Amma, W-I-L-L-A-H-M-E-D, and that will give you 15% off

a W-W-P membership.

All right, we got a fascinating guest this week.

Brian Johnson, a famous and talented entrepreneur. He is currently the founder and CEO of Kernel.

Before that, his company, Brain Tree, which you may know as the owner of Venmo, which they bought

for $26 million in 2012. Brian then went on to sell Brain Tree for $800 million a year later.

So obviously a very successful entrepreneur.

And then he took $54 million of his own money and poured it straight into Kernel, which is a groundbreaking company that is building technology that measures the activity of your brain.

As Brian puts it, it's really trying to build almost a whoop for your brain.

They're developing hardware, the likes of which the consumer market really hasn't seen before.

And it's all with this goal to help humanity gain a much greater understanding of the inner

workings of the brain.

Now, whoop and Kernel actually recently

did a study that showed a direct correlation between sleep and impulse control. So that's

something that Brian and I get into on the podcast. We actually found that the more sleep people

got, the more the brain was actively engaged in the participant's willpower.

So that's right. This technology can measure things like willpower in your brain.

We discuss Brian's beginnings in business and how his life changed overnight with the success of brain tree,

his mission to discover the secrets of the human brain,

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