Hello, folks. Welcome back to the Whoop Podcast. I'm your host, Will Ahmed, founder and CEO of Whoop, or we are on a mission to unlock human performance. We've got a hell of a guest this week. He is indeed a human performer. Alex Honnold. We're going to get to Alex in half a second, one of the best rock climbers in the world.

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All right, Alex Honnold. This man is fascinating. I got to tell you. So Alex, one of the greatest

rock climbers on the planet. You may recognize the name from, of course, Free Solo, the Oscar Award winning National

Geographic documentary.

If you haven't seen that, that's a must watch in which Alex climbs 3,000 foot L-Cap

without a rope.

Completely scales L-Cap without a rope. I mean, it's such a death-defying accomplishment. It's really hard to comprehend. But I think that's what's so

interesting about this conversation. What's so interesting about Alex. A few athletes in the world

really have reached the level of mastery

in their field the way Alex has. And he openly talks on the podcast about the fact that he

doesn't consider himself one of the most talented rock climbers. But what he's really learned

and what I took from the podcast is how to overcome fear. The common perception

of Alex, if you do a lot of research on him like I did, is that he's sort of a genetic freak of sorts,

that he's just genetically disposed to not feeling fear the way you and I feel fear. But when we got into it, it turns out Alex was afraid of public speaking.

He's had other fears in his life that you or I may find less intimidating.

And yet in this particular area of his life, rock climbing, he has achieved mastery. And he's in particular learned how to control fear

under the circumstances of rock climbing. And I think the takeaway for me and for anyone listening

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