Understanding narcissism in relationships, with Dr. Khadijah Cyril

Savvy Psychologist

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Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Science, Self-improvement, Education

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🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Monica Johnson is joined by Dr. Khadijah Cyril to discuss narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and how it differs from typical harmful behaviors like lying and cheating. They explore the dynamics of relationships involving NPD, the influence of modern dating apps, and offer strategies for breaking free from unhealthy relationship cycles. Dr. Cyril emphasizes the complexity of diagnosing NPD and the importance of personal boundaries and support systems in such scenarios. This episode provides valuable insights for anyone dealing with unhealthy relationships, whether romantic or familial.

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0:00.0	Y'all, I'm excited to have Dr. Kadeja Cyril with me today to talk about narcissistic
0:08.8	personality disorder and its impact on relationships.
0:13.0	We discuss the differences between normal, harmful behaviors that people may engage in, like
0:18.3	lying and cheating, and how that looks different when someone actually
0:22.2	displays narcissistic traits or narcissistic personality disorder. So if you want to learn about
0:29.2	this topic and some ways on how to get out of unhealthy relationship dynamics, this episode is for you.
0:36.2	Welcome back to savvy psychologist. I'm your host, Dr. Monica Johnson.
0:41.1	Every week on this show, I'll help you face life's challenges with evidence-based approaches,
0:45.8	a sympathetic ear, and zero judgment. You all, I am so excited today. I have Dr. Kadeja Cyril with us.
0:55.6	She is a longtime friend and colleague of mine.
1:00.0	And she's an expert in narcissistic personality disorder.
1:05.0	And she has so graciously given me her time so that we can have a chat and learn more about narcissism and narcissistic
1:13.6	personality disorder. So thank you so much, Dr. Cyril, for being here today.
1:19.6	I'm really glad to be here. Thank you for having me.
1:23.0	Just to get the conversation started, you know, one of the things I've noticed is that the term
1:28.2	narcissist and also narcissistic personality disorder are thrown around a lot in the media.
1:35.3	And being a psychologist, one of the things that I notice is I just have a strong reaction
1:40.1	because a lot of the things that people are labeling as narcissistic personality disorder,
1:46.0	and just so everyone knows, we may use the shorthand of NPD, just so that we don't have to say
1:51.9	narcissistic personality disorder this whole time. And so a lot of things people will call
1:57.1	NPD, I'm like, ugh, that's not actually the disorder. So could you talk more about
2:05.3	kind of what is actually NPD and kind of where do we get it wrong in the general public?
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