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how you can try them out. And let's do this. You are listening to the Dernolin Show. I'm Dern.

I spent the last 20 years devoted to improving health, protecting the environment,

and finding ways to live a more sustainable life. In this podcast, I have honest conversations with

people that inspire me. I hope that through their knowledge and unique perspectives, they'll inspire

you too. We talk about all kinds of topics from amping up your diets and improving your well-being

to the mind-blowing stories behind the human experience and the people that are striving

to save us and our incredible planet. We even investigate some of life's fatal conveniences.

You know, those things that we are told might be good for us, but totally aren't.

So here's to making better choices and the small tweaks in your life that amount to big changes

for you and the people around you and the planet. Let's do this. This is my show, the Dernolin Show.

Hey everybody, welcome to the show. This is Dernolin. This is the Dernolin Show stout to have

you here. Thanks for your time for your commitment to yourself for your life and having a better one,

receiving information, applying information and using that to live a better life for yourself,

for your family, for your children, for life itself. If we don't like what we see in the world

that is on us, if you see it, you can do something about it. How cool is that? That responsibility

is on you. Then you can help create the future that you want. You can dream, you can journal,

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