What is up everybody? This is the Mind Over Macros Podcast and I am your host Mike Milner.

And wow, we just had an amazing conversation, Dr. Gabrielle

Fondaro and myself, and she dropped some serious knowledge about all

things gut health. I think you guys are going to have to run through this episode a

couple times or take out a pen and paper and write down some notes unless you're

driving and that would be bad. But really enjoyed this episode and if you can do us a favor and please help the show grow

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We love to see who's listening and what you guys think and enjoy the episode.

All right, guys, I am joined by Dr. Gabriel Fondaro. Hopefully I said that right.

Gut Health Expert and I'm super excited for this conversation because I consider myself as the person who talks about poop more than anybody else and as a gut health

expert you might have me beat.

Maybe, maybe.

I think I don't talk is on the internet as much about poop as I do with people sending me messages and things on Instagram personally.

Yeah, exactly. My clients give me shit like, you know, pun intended, but but you know they'll tell me about their

digestion or like they you know a regular had a solid poop and I'm celebrating as if they just hit

a deadlift PR but anyway so I appreciate you joining me and I'm super excited for this conversation.

Why don't you start off by telling me what got you into the fitness industry to begin with and

then what led you down the path of

gut health? Oh wow what got me into the industry that's like way back in the day I

actually started college as a music major and sort of it was kind of my

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