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🗓️ 1 July 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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To some members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, creator Dustin Lance Black’s FX series “Under the Banner of Heaven” is an unfair depiction of their religion. Having grown up in the church, Black says he is not surprised. “As I grew older, and got to know more that this is a church that does not like anything questioned,” Black says. “They have the saying to ‘doubt your doubts.’ And one of the things I know the church is most uncomfortable with is outsiders discussing the faith, and I'm seen as an outsider now.” Black explains his approach to adapt Jon Krakauer’s nonfiction book into the FX series, and how his Mormon upbringing helped him shape and explore the history of the Mormon church. He also discusses advocacy, and having failures, and successes in his career. But first, Disney renews Bob Chapek’s contract for another three years, despite his turbulent tenure. Has Disney given him a full vote of confidence, or will they keep an eye on him?
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0:00.0 | From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business. |
0:06.2 | To members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Dustin Lance Black's FX series |
0:11.5 | Under the Banner of Heaven is an unfair depiction of their religion. |
0:15.8 | Having grown up in the church and left it, Black says he isn't surprised. |
0:20.1 | They have the saying to doubt your doubts, and one of the things I know the church is left it, Black says he isn't surprised. They have the saying to doubt your doubts. |
0:22.7 | And one of the things I know the church is most uncomfortable with is outsiders discussing |
0:26.9 | the faith. And I'm seen as an outsider now. |
0:30.3 | Black shares how his Mormon upbringing shaped his adaptation of John Crackauer's sprawling |
0:36.0 | nonfiction exploration of the history of the Mormon religion. |
0:39.9 | But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW. |
0:44.2 | I am joined by my partner in banter. Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt. Hi there. So, I've been predicting |
0:50.9 | it recently, but people in my Twitter feeds, certainly my scientifically curated Twitter feed were shocked that Disney, the Disney board re-uped Bob Chappick as CEO for three more years. |
1:02.9 | You know, Bob Chapik has had a lot of troubles that we've talked about on the show, but they decided either that they didn't have a better option or that he was the good option. |
1:11.3 | They said they voted unanimously to extend him. |
1:15.0 | And that has been a long time coming. |
1:17.0 | They let it go quite late. |
1:18.8 | People noted the statement of support they issued to him after he created a third controversy, |
1:24.2 | major controversy in his tenure by very unceremoniously firing Peter Rice's head of |
1:29.1 | TV content a few weeks ago. So it seemed clear at that point. They were going to renew him. |
1:34.8 | But I'm not sure, you know, that you say, okay, well, that's it then. Bob Chapic for three more |
1:39.2 | years, people will be watching him very, very closely. And I would say that there's a certain |
1:43.2 | amount of chip on the |
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