From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

Fire of Love is a tender ode to Maurice and Katya Craft, the Alsatian French couple who spent decades traveling the world, filming, writing, and lecturing on the beauty and dangers of molten lava and blasts of hot gases.

In her new documentary, Fire of Love,

director Sarah Dosa tells us about using hours of the craft's footage to tell the story of the renowned pair and how she thinks they dealt with taking ever greater risks in pursuit of their

shared passion. I am sure that they still had moments of fear, but they learned how to be

in relationship with fear, I think, in a profoundly different way than a lot of people who don't

encounter such danger on a daily basis the way that they did. Dosa shares how the couple

embraced the spirit of adventure and ultimately gave their lives, chasing the mysteries of volcanoes.

But first, we banter. Stick around. It's the

business from KCRW. I'm joined by my associate in banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt. Hi there.

So, Matt, as you know, the moguls are gathering in Sun Valley. They are all there, both Bob Iger and Bob Chepic,

which is, you know, I know as a matter of course, Herbert Allen and Herbert Allen Jr. and all the

Herbert Allen's who are involved in sponsoring this annual conference of moguls, they invite people

even when they're for a period after they're no longer in the job.

But, you know, and Iger is still, you know, investing and doing things.

But people are going to be watching that among other things because, as well known, there's

awkwardness between the two.

But of course, tons of other people are there saying there are things that reporters stand

there and try to parse and

figure out if there's a deal in the making. This historically has been a place where huge

deals have emerged, not so much in recent years, but in the past. I want to say, if these people

make a big deal, I'm warning them. Don't do it because it has been so busy. There has been

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