When we put prayers to end extreme poverty into practice, there's no going back.

Yes, thank you Isaac. I was just about to get on to that.

You see when...

When we are trained in new skills, we can provide for ourselves.

Can I carry on? We can grow our own

vegetables, send our children to school, build our own homes. Do you want to do the

whole ad? No you go. This Christmas put your your prayers into practice, so there's no going back to extreme poverty.

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Good afternoon. I do hope you're enjoying your bank holiday weekend. It's August the 23rd.

The month is slipping by already, isn't it? Autumn will soon be upon us, but we don't want to think about that.

It's still summer, as far as I'm concerned at least,

and I do hope you're enjoying your bank holiday and you enjoy the extra day off work that that'll mean for

most people on Monday. And I hope you enjoy today's program. Two guests join me who

were with me a couple of months ago. They are Keith Ward and Robert Stovold.

You're unbelievable! Keith Ward is the former Regis Professor of Divinity at Oxford University and he's a theologian,

he's a philosopher and he's a Christian and he's written a book in response to Richard Dawkins The God Delusion.

It's called Why There Almost Certainly is a God, and we'll hear why he called it that a little bit later on.

He's going to be presenting what he believes are some of the arguments

against Richard Dawkins beliefs he rich had in his book the god delusion

presents a number of what he believes are knock down philosophical arguments against God.

Well, Keith doesn't agree.

But atheist Robert Stovold is very much in line

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