Unbelievable? 13 Jun 2009 The Moral Argument for God

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Atheist Paul Orton contacted the show saying he was unconvinced by the claim of some Christians that morality must be based in God, to make sense. He claims that morality is a product of biological and social evolution and "the changing moral Zeitgeist" determines the morals we hold. Christian apologist David Robertson claims that you can't make sense of "right" and "wrong" without reference to an ultimate standard - God. Anything else opens the door to moral nihilism. Slavery in the Bible, racism and much more enter the discussion as they discuss the practical outworking of our moral foundations. For David Robertson http://www.stpeters-dundee.org.uk Click here for the apologetics course he is teaching in July 2009 For more Christian/Non-Christian debate visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast If you enjoyed this show you may also enjoy Unbelievable? 21 Mar 2009 "Challenging Atheist Myths" Part 1 Christian David Robertson & Atheist Adrian Hayter Unbelievable? 26 Jan 2008 Morality - do we need God to be Good? Join the discussion at the Premier Community

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0:30.0	Good afternoon, my name's Justin Briley. It's that time of the week, that time of a Saturday afternoon when I get Christians and non-christians together to talk about faith and belief. It's unbelievable and I hope you can join me between now 2.30 and 4 o'clock this afternoon.
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1:09.0	So a really interesting program got lined up for you today.
1:12.0	We're talking about whether we
1:14.9	can prove God's existence from the basis of our moral beliefs. I'll explain
1:20.4	more right now. You're unbelievable.
1:24.0	One of my favorite arguments actually for the existence of God this one,
1:28.0	which basically says, okay, we all accept that there are moral facts about the world.
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