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Good afternoon.

Welcome along to the program, unbelievable. The place where

Christians and non-Christians talk and whether you're listening live this

Saturday afternoon or online via podcast or the stream, well you're welcome along and I do hope you enjoy the program.

My thanks to those who have gone before and don't forget later on this afternoon here on

Premier. You can hear Hip Rock UK with Dave and B. That's from 4 o'clock and then it's the best unsigned Christian music

talent with Lizzy Crow so do stay tuned but if you're into Narnia and the stories of CS Lewis, you'll want to listen to today's program.

We're going to be meeting two Narnia fans.

One's a Christian, the other is not. Laura Miller is our non-Christian on the program today. She wrote a book called The Magicians Book, A Skeptics Adventures in Narnia, and it's the story of how she, as a young girl, fell in love with Narnia and it's the story of how she as a young girl fell in love with Narnia but as a teenager

realized the Christian motifs and it really put her off she says she felt cheated

by the whole thing we're gonna also hear from Michael Ward. He's a leading expert on

CS Lewis in the world today. He has an exciting new book called Planet Narnia. He's a Christian

and he'll be looking at things and discussing with Laura from a Christian perspective.

Do hope you enjoy the show as much as I'm going to enjoy it and that's because I am a CS Lewis fan probably like many

people had my if you like introduction to Christian apologetics the defense of the

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