UN won’t end Russia-Ukraine war, diversity can threaten democracy
To the Point
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🗓️ 5 May 2022
⏱️ 59 minutes
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The United Nations can’t stop Russia’s war on Ukraine. And author Yascha Mounk says more diversity is a threat to democracy, but he’s still hopeful.
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| 0:00.0 | America's great experiment on a democracy is in trouble. |
| 0:18.3 | Donald Trump's big live and he won the 2020 election is not just accepted, |
| 0:22.2 | but widely promoted by a Republican Party that supports state laws making it harder for some people |
| 0:27.8 | to vote. Some liberal Democrats take comfort in the country's increasing diversity, but Yasha |
| 0:34.2 | Monk has a warning. He says it's diversity that's threatening democracy, |
| 0:39.5 | not just in the U.S., but elsewhere in the world, in nations increasingly divided by class |
| 0:45.2 | and race and religion. We'll hear his warning about the danger of believing that demography |
| 0:50.3 | is destiny. But first, to Vladimir Putin's defiance of the rules of war and the inability of the |
| 0:58.9 | United Nations to influence Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine. But it was founded in San Francisco in |
| 1:05.1 | 1945. The promise of the UN was the peaceful resolution of international disputes, but now Putin is threatening |
| 1:12.7 | nuclear warfare against the U.S. and NATO. And when UN Secretary General Antonio Gutierrez paid a visit, |
| 1:19.7 | Russia dropped bombs on Kiev, Ukraine's capital city. Just a few days before that, I spoke with |
| 1:26.1 | a former ambassador to Ukraine, Stephen Pfeifferer. |
| 1:29.3 | He's now a senior fellow with the Arms Control and Non-Proliferation Institute |
| 1:33.2 | and a William Perry fellow at Stanford University. |
| 1:36.3 | I asked him if the UN might play a role or if it's essentially out of the peacekeeping business. |
| 1:42.5 | His answers were prophetic. |
| 1:50.4 | Let's get a little background before we begin. As the war in Ukraine continues, the U.S. is |
| 1:55.6 | contributing many billions of dollars in weapons and military equipment, America's Secretary of State and Defense, |
| 2:02.8 | Anthony Blinken, and Lloyd Austin, after a risky visit to Kyiv, said that this country wants Russia |
| 2:10.5 | to be weakened. Russia's top diplomat, Sergei Lavrov, says, the U.S. and NATO are risking |
| 2:16.9 | nuclear war. |
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