I want to start this in a bit of a weird direction.

I want to ask you what drove you to be a, want to be a professional football player.

That's an interesting, and now you had such an interesting drive as a young man.

Like, I just want to do this. Where'd that come from?

Just like a passion born really, really early.

It's funny, I've said before football wasn't just the first sport that I

fell in love with. It was the only one. And I think we've talked about this, but I identify a lot

probably as an athlete now, but I did not for my formative years. I was a late bloomer in the sense

that I really became focused on athletics around 12. So around age 10 is when I kind of got into fitness. I walked by my brother's bedroom one night. He's five years older than me. And I saw him doing push-ups and sit-ups before bed. And I was like, what are you doing? He said, push-up and sit-up. I said, can I join? And I did, and that just created that obsession. And then it was literally at recess in grade six. I didn't know what a running back was. And they said, you go be the running back. I was just fast. I had just really hit puberty. It was perfect timing of doing like 250 to 500 push-ups and sit-ups every single night for like a year or two, I suddenly was like big fast and strong.

But prior to that, I was like, perfect timing of doing like 250 to 500 pushups and sit-ups every single night for like a year or two,

I suddenly was like big fast and strong. But prior to that, I was like the most unathletic kid in the universe.

And so it was just this concept of like, get this ball and it was a giant game of tag.

I had no idea what a running back was. Within a year of that, I'd obviously signed up for a league.

I had bought every single football magazine I could find in any single store in Scarborough

and started writing my own book of what does it take to be a great running back.

So everything I read, I would just start to write and record in terms of what are the things I need to work on?

Balance, shiftiness, strong legs, etc.

And so it was just, I probably was just primed for a passion towards something, and that was the thing that came into my life. That's my best hypothesis. Tell me about the book. Oh, it was just as a kid, I just took like a moleskin, I still do that with all my thoughts and ideas. Right. And I literally started like map. You created a playbook on who you're becoming. Yeah. I think without even really necessarily calling it that, it was just like an obsession that was born a young age of like, okay, this is the thing that I'm doing. How do you become phenomenal at this? How do you focus on this? And that just, yeah, I mean, looking back, I have nothing but positive memories. It just really drove me.

Was that something that you feel was innate to your biology, or is it something that you witnessed

in the people around you? Or was it coming from some version of inadequacy? I don't think I had any

concept of inadequacy at the time only because I don't think that was even on my radar. At the time,

I certainly was insecure with respect to sports,

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