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The Lawfare Podcast

Ukrainians Hit the Kerch Bridge ... Again

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🗓️ 18 July 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

It was a busy weekend in the waters off of Ukraine and Russia. The Ukrainians hit—for the second time—the Kerch Bridge, which connects the Russian mainland with occupied Crimea. The Russians, meanwhile, announced that they are not renewing the Black Sea Grain Initiative, the complex agreement by which Ukraine has managed to export grain through the port of Odessa.

What do we know about what happened on the Kerch Bridge? How big a deal is it? Is it connected to the Russian withdrawal from the grain initiative? And what does the scotching of the Black Sea Grain Initiative mean for the Ukrainian economy? To chew it all over, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Dmitri Alperovitch of Silverado Policy Accelerator and the Geopolitics Decanted podcast, and Mykhailo Soldatenko, a visiting researcher at the Harvard Law School and an international lawyer who has written for Lawfare about the Black Sea Grain Initiative. 

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And then it can be automatically extended,

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unless one of the parties expressed intention to terminate it or change it.

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And so basically that's a veto over the deal extension.

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And that allowed Russia to politically connect it and try to get concessions.

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I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast July 18, 2023.

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It was a busy weekend in the waters off of Ukraine and Russia.

1:09.0

The Ukrainians hit for the second time the Kirch bridge,

1:13.0

which connects the Russian mainland with occupied Crimea.

1:17.0

The Russians meanwhile announced that they are not renewing the Black Sea grain initiative.

1:24.0

The complex agreement by which Ukraine has managed to export grain through the port of Odessa.

1:34.0

To chew over what it all means, we gathered in the virtual jungle studio,

1:39.0

Dmitry Alparovitch of Silverado Policy Accelerator and the Geo Politics decanted podcast,

1:47.0

and Mikhail O'Soldatenko, a visiting researcher at the Harvard Law School and an international lawyer,

1:55.0

who has written for law fair about the Black Sea grain initiative.

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What do we know about what happened on the Kirch bridge?

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How big a deal is it?

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