A Big Day in Trump Accountability
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 19 July 2023
⏱️ 68 minutes
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It was a big day in the legal travails of Donald Trump. We awoke this morning to news from the former president himself that he had received another target letter from special counsel Jack Smith, this time from the Jan. 6 grand jury. An indictment seems to be imminent. Incoming Lawfare Legal Fellow Anna Bower spent the day in federal court in Fort Pierce, where Judge Aileen Cannon was hearing the first major status conference of the Mar-a-Lago case. And just as Anna was coming out of court, the Attorney General of Michigan announced that she had brought cases against several fake electors from the 2020 election in that state.
Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Anna and with Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff for a live taping of The Lawfare Podcast to go over it all. What do we know about the apparently forthcoming new case against Donald Trump? What do we know about the fake electors case in Michigan? And what happened in the courtroom when Judge Cannon faced her first hearing as the presiding judge in the Mar-a-Lago case?
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| 0:25.6 | no bull, and the aftermath. She said, you know, I think we should really just be focusing |
| 0:36.6 | on these statutory factors on whether or not I should continue this trial. Those are |
| 0:41.7 | things like whether or not the case has multiple defendants, whether or not novel issues |
| 0:47.9 | of law have been raised, you know, the complex general nature and complexity of the case. |
| 0:54.2 | I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast July 19, 2023. It was a heck of the day |
| 1:03.5 | in the legal travails of Donald Trump. We awoke this morning to news from the former president |
| 1:10.7 | himself that he had received another target letter from special counsel Jack Smith this |
| 1:16.8 | time from the January 6th grand jury. An indictment seems to be imminent. Our own Anna Bauer |
| 1:24.8 | spent the day in federal court in Fort Pierce where Judge Eileen Cannon was hearing the |
| 1:32.0 | first major status conference of the Mar-a-Lago case. And just as she was coming out of court, |
| 1:39.4 | the attorney general of Michigan announced that she had brought cases against several fake |
| 1:45.4 | electors from the 2020 election in that state. We gathered in the virtual jungle studio for |
| 1:55.1 | a live taping of the LawFair podcast to go over it all. What do we know about the apparently |
| 2:02.4 | forthcoming new case against Donald Trump? What do we know about the fake electors case |
| 2:09.0 | in Michigan and what happened in the courtroom when Judge Cannon faced her first hearing as |
| 2:18.1 | presiding judge in the Mar-a-Lago case. It's the LawFair podcast July 19, a big day in Trump |
| 2:28.4 | accountability. Roger, I want to start with you. The first information we had this morning that |
| 2:37.2 | anything was up was of course from Donald Trump himself. He truth or as my friend Tim Miller likes |
| 2:45.9 | to say, he bleated that he had received a target letter from the January 6th grand jury as |
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