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#UKRAINE: THE OVAL OFFICE SHOWDOWN. BILL ROGGIO JOHN HARDIE FDD

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🗓️ 4 March 2025

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#UKRAINE: THE OVAL OFFICE SHOWDOWN. BILL ROGGIO JOHN HARDIE FDD
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchew with my good colleague Bill Rajo, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

0:08.6

We come into the politics of the war, or ending the war, cease firing the war.

0:13.7

One headline will do for all, John.

0:16.8

This is London, the Times.

0:19.7

Trump expected to discuss canceling military aid to Ukraine.

0:24.6

I'll stop there.

0:25.9

What does that mean, John?

0:26.9

What happens without American aid?

0:31.1

Right.

0:31.4

So just to give some backster, I'm sure listeners are familiar with the tumultuous meeting that

0:37.2

happened on Friday, so I won't go into depth on that.

0:40.0

I think right now the Trump administration is, you know, A, feeling disrespected, and B, they think that Zelensky, you know, isn't really all that committed to peace.

0:51.7

I don't think its assessment there is quite right on either of those issues, but that's

0:56.6

their view of it.

0:58.4

And so I think the Trump administration is considering cutting aid to try to force Zelensky

1:03.6

back into talks on a ceasefire.

1:07.7

And from my perspective, probably not the best way to go. I think you would at best

1:13.4

sort of undermine actually the Trump administration's leverage to get a peace deal. And while I don't

1:18.7

suspect or I don't expect a cutoff of American aid would lead to a collapse of the Ukrainian front

1:24.6

by any means, you know, there is a risk that it could have, you know,

1:28.0

kind of a cascading effect on morale. And, you know, you could see, you know, Ukrainian forces

1:32.2

struggle increasingly to hold the front. So they might lose more land. And a big issue is, is

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